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		<title>Comment on Hold Your Man (1933) by chimeralucida</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimeralucida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great!

this blog has already done its job if it can bring even one more person to that Mordden book--it is truly a treasure trove of ideas and interpretations (which is not to say that I agree with all--or even most!--of the author&#039;s opinions... I am particularly dead-set against his dismissive attitude toward early thirties Universal these days--but that&#039;s part of the fun!)

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great!</p>
<p>this blog has already done its job if it can bring even one more person to that Mordden book&#8211;it is truly a treasure trove of ideas and interpretations (which is not to say that I agree with all&#8211;or even most!&#8211;of the author&#8217;s opinions&#8230; I am particularly dead-set against his dismissive attitude toward early thirties Universal these days&#8211;but that&#8217;s part of the fun!)</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hold Your Man (1933) by msteudel</title>
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		<dc:creator>msteudel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great, Dave. If this is a sign of things to come, I know I&#039;ll enjoy regularly checking out this blog. I&#039;ve never thought about these star vehicles in light of character development vs. character recognition, but that&#039;s a great point that sure does make a lot of sense (although I&#039;m sure that Clark Gable when he&#039;s crying would not be at his most recognizable...).

And thanks for the Mordden book recommendation. I have not read it but have been wanting to find some nice reading material on the studio age for some time. This should fit the bill quite nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great, Dave. If this is a sign of things to come, I know I&#8217;ll enjoy regularly checking out this blog. I&#8217;ve never thought about these star vehicles in light of character development vs. character recognition, but that&#8217;s a great point that sure does make a lot of sense (although I&#8217;m sure that Clark Gable when he&#8217;s crying would not be at his most recognizable&#8230;).</p>
<p>And thanks for the Mordden book recommendation. I have not read it but have been wanting to find some nice reading material on the studio age for some time. This should fit the bill quite nicely.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello by chimeralucida</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimeralucida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh certainly Franz, I agree--and you need have no fear that I&#039;ll be wasting my (or anyone else&#039;s) time here ranting about George Bush, or current politics in general!

I&#039;ll be &lt;i&gt;discussing&lt;/i&gt; Manichean modes of expression here--not engaging in them! (at least, that&#039;s the plan--but if the prez starts commenting on this blog, all bets are off!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh certainly Franz, I agree&#8211;and you need have no fear that I&#8217;ll be wasting my (or anyone else&#8217;s) time here ranting about George Bush, or current politics in general!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be <i>discussing</i> Manichean modes of expression here&#8211;not engaging in them! (at least, that&#8217;s the plan&#8211;but if the prez starts commenting on this blog, all bets are off!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello by FrF</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:

&lt;cite&gt;I hope you will stick around here though...&lt;/cite&gt;

Of course I will! And I&#039;d be very happy about a copy of your Cerebus paper. 

Now I&#039;m just wondering how rock-solid your reason is for calling your new blog &quot;Manichean&quot; because I see no dearth of overheated arguments. The whole blogosphere, no matter from which parts of the political spectrum the  writers come, has a reputation for being extremely polemical. There may be somewhere people who don&#039;t want to attack their political opponents because they think there&#039;s &quot;not just black and white&quot; and &quot;all things are a shade of gray&quot; but I suspect they aren&#039;t many! In fact I always thought that you were -- maybe in part influenced by postmodern thought -- hesistant in playing the polemics game and attacking others, though it did happen occasionally at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ynot.motime.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Motime Like The Present&lt;/a&gt;. Only after reading your piece &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/04/17/024143.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ecrasez L&#039;Infame&lt;/a&gt; about Richard Hofstadter did it dawn on me that there was another side to your writing. 

(A sort of noble discretion did make up not a small part of Motime&#039;s attractiveness for me. When you &lt;a href=&quot;http://ynot.motime.com/1077340397#220502&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;write&lt;/a&gt; about superhero fandom that it &quot;is not exactly the world&#039;s greatest repository of maturity and wisdom&quot; than this is just much more funny than the usual disdain which qua its (slightly) superficial mode of criticism undermines its credibility. Seen from this perspective, forums such as the one of the Comics Journal could be perceived as exhausting.)

So is there really a need for a Manichean mode of thinking? My impression -- and I&#039;m gallivanting here rather carelessly between aesthetic and political realms -- is that George Bush gets denounced literally left and right. It&#039;s just that it has no political consequences or only glacially advancing ones!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:</p>
<p><cite>I hope you will stick around here though&#8230;</cite></p>
<p>Of course I will! And I&#8217;d be very happy about a copy of your Cerebus paper. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m just wondering how rock-solid your reason is for calling your new blog &#8220;Manichean&#8221; because I see no dearth of overheated arguments. The whole blogosphere, no matter from which parts of the political spectrum the  writers come, has a reputation for being extremely polemical. There may be somewhere people who don&#8217;t want to attack their political opponents because they think there&#8217;s &#8220;not just black and white&#8221; and &#8220;all things are a shade of gray&#8221; but I suspect they aren&#8217;t many! In fact I always thought that you were &#8212; maybe in part influenced by postmodern thought &#8212; hesistant in playing the polemics game and attacking others, though it did happen occasionally at <a href="http://www.ynot.motime.com/" rel="nofollow">Motime Like The Present</a>. Only after reading your piece <a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/04/17/024143.php" rel="nofollow">Ecrasez L&#8217;Infame</a> about Richard Hofstadter did it dawn on me that there was another side to your writing. </p>
<p>(A sort of noble discretion did make up not a small part of Motime&#8217;s attractiveness for me. When you <a href="http://ynot.motime.com/1077340397#220502" rel="nofollow">write</a> about superhero fandom that it &#8220;is not exactly the world&#8217;s greatest repository of maturity and wisdom&#8221; than this is just much more funny than the usual disdain which qua its (slightly) superficial mode of criticism undermines its credibility. Seen from this perspective, forums such as the one of the Comics Journal could be perceived as exhausting.)</p>
<p>So is there really a need for a Manichean mode of thinking? My impression &#8212; and I&#8217;m gallivanting here rather carelessly between aesthetic and political realms &#8212; is that George Bush gets denounced literally left and right. It&#8217;s just that it has no political consequences or only glacially advancing ones!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello by chimeralucida</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimeralucida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark--

very happy to have you as a reader, as I am quite taken with your own blog!

I absolutely agree with your studio-auteur interpretation--sometimes (not always, of course!) it makes A LOT more sense than the director-centered version that the Cahiers de Cinema people introduced...

Have you ever Ethan Mordden&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Studios-House-Golden-Movies/dp/0671680463&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Hollywood Studios&lt;/a&gt;? It was fundamental to my being as a pubescent classic film fan, and I&#039;ve probably re-read it once every year since I bought it in 1990! I think he does such a great job of fleshing out this approach, and one of the main ways I&#039;ve marked the progress of my years has been through the cyclical way my enthusiasm has made its way through each of the old studios and back &#039;round again (I&#039;m currently on a real Universal-under-Carl-Laemmle Jr. binge!)

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark&#8211;</p>
<p>very happy to have you as a reader, as I am quite taken with your own blog!</p>
<p>I absolutely agree with your studio-auteur interpretation&#8211;sometimes (not always, of course!) it makes A LOT more sense than the director-centered version that the Cahiers de Cinema people introduced&#8230;</p>
<p>Have you ever Ethan Mordden&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Studios-House-Golden-Movies/dp/0671680463" rel="nofollow">The Hollywood Studios</a>? It was fundamental to my being as a pubescent classic film fan, and I&#8217;ve probably re-read it once every year since I bought it in 1990! I think he does such a great job of fleshing out this approach, and one of the main ways I&#8217;ve marked the progress of my years has been through the cyclical way my enthusiasm has made its way through each of the old studios and back &#8217;round again (I&#8217;m currently on a real Universal-under-Carl-Laemmle Jr. binge!)</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello by chimeralucida</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimeralucida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franz!

lately, it&#039;s been all fiction + teaching, so I don&#039;t have much to offer in the way of essays--but I&#039;ll be very pleased to send you the Cerebus paper when I get done with it (which probably won&#039;t be until early in the fall, at the rate I&#039;m going!)

I hope you will stick around here though--I definitely am planning to focus on movies on this blog, but as may already be apparent from my intro, there are a number of similarities between my approaches to studio Age films and superhero comics, and there will almost certainly be some bleed back and forth between the various categories of works under discussion (the other ol&#039; reliables--romantic poetry, 19th century novels, and pulp fiction--will undoubtedly make their way into my writings here too!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franz!</p>
<p>lately, it&#8217;s been all fiction + teaching, so I don&#8217;t have much to offer in the way of essays&#8211;but I&#8217;ll be very pleased to send you the Cerebus paper when I get done with it (which probably won&#8217;t be until early in the fall, at the rate I&#8217;m going!)</p>
<p>I hope you will stick around here though&#8211;I definitely am planning to focus on movies on this blog, but as may already be apparent from my intro, there are a number of similarities between my approaches to studio Age films and superhero comics, and there will almost certainly be some bleed back and forth between the various categories of works under discussion (the other ol&#8217; reliables&#8211;romantic poetry, 19th century novels, and pulp fiction&#8211;will undoubtedly make their way into my writings here too!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello by msteudel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fellow studio age addict, this blog looks like it&#039;ll be right up my alley.

I agree with your thoughts on the studios being driven by personality. I&#039;ve always been interested myself in how the studios themselves seem to acquire personalities of their own (e.g., there&#039;s a certain &quot;feel&quot; to a Warner Bros. or RKO film that makes it different from the films of other studios). I suppose this is mostly due to all the creative talent, including script-writers, directors, etc., being under long-term contract in addition to the main stars.

Looking forward to reading your thoughts in future posts. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fellow studio age addict, this blog looks like it&#8217;ll be right up my alley.</p>
<p>I agree with your thoughts on the studios being driven by personality. I&#8217;ve always been interested myself in how the studios themselves seem to acquire personalities of their own (e.g., there&#8217;s a certain &#8220;feel&#8221; to a Warner Bros. or RKO film that makes it different from the films of other studios). I suppose this is mostly due to all the creative talent, including script-writers, directors, etc., being under long-term contract in addition to the main stars.</p>
<p>Looking forward to reading your thoughts in future posts. . .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello by FrF</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand -- after I hinted at my hunch that  it&#039;s very likely that I&#039;ll never be a such a big admirer of Squadron Supreme than you, Dave -- I just want to mention a favourite moment in issue 11 of the series: When Master Menace announces that he was able to reverse the effects of Tom Thumb&#039;s behaviour modification apparatus and says that he tested his newly concocted machine &quot;on three ex-convicts [...] All three are out committing felonies right now!&quot; and then Nighthawk exclaims &quot;Fantastic!&quot; then this is very funy.

Ok, enough OT posts for today!

PS: Here&#039;s the (hopefully) working link for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ynot.motime.com/1174480970#650087&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Derrida paper&lt;/a&gt; I mentioned previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand &#8212; after I hinted at my hunch that  it&#8217;s very likely that I&#8217;ll never be a such a big admirer of Squadron Supreme than you, Dave &#8212; I just want to mention a favourite moment in issue 11 of the series: When Master Menace announces that he was able to reverse the effects of Tom Thumb&#8217;s behaviour modification apparatus and says that he tested his newly concocted machine &#8220;on three ex-convicts [...] All three are out committing felonies right now!&#8221; and then Nighthawk exclaims &#8220;Fantastic!&#8221; then this is very funy.</p>
<p>Ok, enough OT posts for today!</p>
<p>PS: Here&#8217;s the (hopefully) working link for the <a href="http://ynot.motime.com/1174480970#650087" rel="nofollow">Derrida paper</a> I mentioned previously.</p>
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		<dc:creator>FrF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m witnessing this blog&#039;s first hours and I see that you&#039;re tweaking the design of the &quot;Manichean&quot; (smile).

If your main focus here is on studio age movies then I&#039;ll probably not contribute as much as I&#039;d like, simply because I don&#039;t know very much about them.

This is an opportune time to ask if you have any papers which are not internet-published and that you&#039;d feel comfortable sharing. I think I&#039;ve read every essay on &quot;Motime Like The Present&quot; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://pleasemo.motime.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Please Sir, I Want Some Mo&#039;&lt;/a&gt;. I admit having a bias for your historiographic papers and a bit against the more theoretical work like &lt;a&gt;this short essay&lt;/a&gt; on Derrida. (I&#039;m just not much of a Derrida fan, I&#039;m afraid...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m witnessing this blog&#8217;s first hours and I see that you&#8217;re tweaking the design of the &#8220;Manichean&#8221; (smile).</p>
<p>If your main focus here is on studio age movies then I&#8217;ll probably not contribute as much as I&#8217;d like, simply because I don&#8217;t know very much about them.</p>
<p>This is an opportune time to ask if you have any papers which are not internet-published and that you&#8217;d feel comfortable sharing. I think I&#8217;ve read every essay on &#8220;Motime Like The Present&#8221; and <a href="http://pleasemo.motime.com/" rel="nofollow">Please Sir, I Want Some Mo&#8217;</a>. I admit having a bias for your historiographic papers and a bit against the more theoretical work like <a>this short essay</a> on Derrida. (I&#8217;m just not much of a Derrida fan, I&#8217;m afraid&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello by chimeralucida</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimeralucida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, I did not wind up making it to Chicago last year Franz--but this year, there&#039;s even more exciting stuff going on, because I&#039;m going to be speaking (on Cerebus!) at the massive MLA conference in Chicago (as well as at the Midwest MLA conference in Cleveland)...

I&#039;m still rather proud of the Squadron Supreme paper--but I do suspect it would have been hard to make it meaningful to an audience of people that never heard of Mark Gruenwald&#039;s magnum opus (but I do indeed look forward to hearing your own thoughts on the book AND the essay!)

thanks for leaving the first comment!

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, I did not wind up making it to Chicago last year Franz&#8211;but this year, there&#8217;s even more exciting stuff going on, because I&#8217;m going to be speaking (on Cerebus!) at the massive MLA conference in Chicago (as well as at the Midwest MLA conference in Cleveland)&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still rather proud of the Squadron Supreme paper&#8211;but I do suspect it would have been hard to make it meaningful to an audience of people that never heard of Mark Gruenwald&#8217;s magnum opus (but I do indeed look forward to hearing your own thoughts on the book AND the essay!)</p>
<p>thanks for leaving the first comment!</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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